Guide to Punting in Greece - Revision history

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Steely Dan at 12:31, 16 September 2023

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 * [https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=384794 48 hours in Athens] Sept 2023
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 * [https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=384794 48 hours in Athens] Sept 2023

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 Getting around: GoogleMaps is ok but doesn’t seem to give public transport routes. The iPhone Maps app is somewhat better, for routes, not for times. To use a bus, just get on and stick a one euro coin in the machine (it’s actually 90cents but the machine doesn’t give change). It’s an honour system, so try not to look like a cheap tourist over 10 cents. There’s one central street starting as Monastiriou, which runs from the station, and changes its name as it curves round into the middle and lower part of the town. Thessaloniki doesn’t have a proper Metro, but one is being built and is scheduled to be operational some time in 2024.
-ESCORTS: https://www.eurogirlsescort.com from about 160 Euros an hour outcall.
+ESCORTS: https://www.eurogirlsescort.com from about 100 Euros upward for an hour outcall.
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	Getting around: GoogleMaps is ok but doesn’t seem to give public transport routes. The iPhone Maps app is somewhat better, for routes, not for times. To use a bus, just get on and stick a one euro coin in the machine (it’s actually 90cents but the machine doesn’t give change). It’s an honour system, so try not to look like a cheap tourist over 10 cents. There’s one central street starting as Monastiriou, which runs from the station, and changes its name as it curves round into the middle and lower part of the town. Thessaloniki doesn’t have a proper Metro, but one is being built and is scheduled to be operational some time in 2024.		Getting around: GoogleMaps is ok but doesn’t seem to give public transport routes. The iPhone Maps app is somewhat better, for routes, not for times. To use a bus, just get on and stick a one euro coin in the machine (it’s actually 90cents but the machine doesn’t give change). It’s an honour system, so try not to look like a cheap tourist over 10 cents. There’s one central street starting as Monastiriou, which runs from the station, and changes its name as it curves round into the middle and lower part of the town. Thessaloniki doesn’t have a proper Metro, but one is being built and is scheduled to be operational some time in 2024.

		+	ESCORTS: https://www.eurogirlsescort.com from about 160 Euros an hour outcall.

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 '''https://www.bourdela.com/
 https://www.athenssexstudios.gr/'''
-Studios often have theor own website.
+Studios often have their own website.
 SOURCES: The major internet resource(s) are in Greek, but can usefully be followed using the Chrome browser with automatic translation. Bourdela.com includes details and ratings for hundreds of brothels and paid sex opportunities. It can be slow on a mobile phone due to the large amount of advertising. There are different English versions of things like street names so you might want a window open with each in Chrome to make sure links work but most will take you to a Googlemaps location. (It's easier to use than it sounds)

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 There is rarely any pressure. Walk in, wait for the girl or girls to be introduced, take your pick, or say no thank you and try the next one. They tend to be clustered so it is easy to visit several or many brothels before making a selection.
-EURO DISTRICT: White light brothels in the biggest category can be found in many areas, but 'brothel central' is located around Filis Street. On your map, follow the Green Line Metro slightly north of the city centre to Viktoria (Βικτώρια) Metro station. Filis (or 'Fylis') is two very short blocks (less than five minutes walk) west from Viktoria, parallel to the Metro line. Many brothels will be open from around midday or sometimes even earlier until very late at night. From Filis, explore the streets and many side streets going West (away from the Metro station). A new trend is trying to upsell an extra 10 Euros for touching and RO.
+EURO DISTRICT: White light brothels in the biggest category can be found in many areas, but 'brothel central' is located around Filis Street. On your map, follow the Green Line Metro slightly north of the city centre to Viktoria (Βικτώρια) Metro station. Filis (or 'Fylis') is two very short blocks (less than five minutes walk) west from Viktoria, parallel to the Metro line. Many brothels will be open from around midday or sometimes even earlier until very late at night. From Filis, explore the streets and many side streets going West (away from the Metro station). A new trend is occasionally trying to upsell an extra 10 Euros for touching and RO. If you tire of the long mamasan speech and know the score, just say “néh neh” (yes yes) to hurry her up.
 EURO DISTRICT: You can walk SSW from the 20 Euro area brothels to the 10 Euro area.  It is centred around the area that includes Kolonou Street, and the small parallel street, Iasonos. On your map, find Metaxourghio (Μεταξουργείο) Metro Station and cross over the main road, Achilleos. Explore the side streets heading south (direction of Kermeikos station). These brothels are especially popular late at night as this is only a short walk from trendy upmarket nightlife districts. The streets can be unkepmt but not particularly dangerous. Annoyingly they are often frequented by groups of Indian gentlemen who just seem to enjoy looking, as if it were an entertainment without buying anything. As with Filis, the better times seem to be early in the day. The 10 Euro area has scruffier rooms and some of the SPs often seem less relaxed.

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 SOURCES: The major internet resource(s) are in Greek, but can usefully be followed using the Chrome browser with automatic translation. Bourdela.com includes details and ratings for hundreds of brothels and paid sex opportunities. It can be slow on a mobile phone due to the large amount of advertising. There are different English versions of things like street names so you might want a window open with each in Chrome to make sure links work but most will take you to a Googlemaps location. (It's easier to use than it sounds)
-GETTING AROUND: For punting in Greece, it is also helpful to have a map (eg Athens) that shows both Greek and English, and at least the Metro stations. The Metro is considered mostly safe apart from pickpockets, easy to use and very cheap. (Buy a single trip bus or Metro ticket from the airport then get a 5-day city pass once in town — covers metro, train, tram and buses and only costs about 8 Euros. Technically-minded punters may wish to make a kml (private google map) to navigate locations easily.
+GETTING AROUND: For punting in Greece, it is also helpful to have a map (eg Athens) that shows both Greek and English, and at least the Metro stations. The Metro is considered mostly safe apart from pickpockets, easy to use and very cheap. (Buy a single trip bus or Metro ticket from the airport then get a 5-day city pass once in town — covers metro, train, tram and buses and only costs about 8 Euros.) Technically-minded punters may wish to make a kml (private google map) to navigate locations easily.
-COSTS: Greece is thoroughly European but also quite chaotic. Some things are the same price as at home whereas others are ridiculously cheap. Short-time sex is easily among the cheapest in Europe, starting at 10 Euros. Three cambios next to each other (eg next to Omonia station, Athens) can give different exchange rates. Taxis are mostly honest and cheap to use just around town. There are express airport buses at Athens' Syntagma Square (6 Euros), or a Metro from the airport (10 Euros), or the standard taxi fare is about 46 Euros (it is quite a long journey from the airport.) Many things, even in shops, are price-negotiable.
+COSTS: Greece is thoroughly European but also quite chaotic. Some things are the same price as at home whereas others are ridiculously cheap. Short-time sex is easily among the cheapest in Europe, starting at 10 Euros. Three cambios next to each other (eg next to Omonia station, Athens) can give different exchange rates. Taxis and Ubers are mostly honest and cheap to use just around town. There are express airport buses at Athens' Syntagma Square (6 Euros), or a Metro from the airport (10 Euros), or the standard taxi fare is about 46 Euros (it is quite a long journey from the airport.) Many things, even in shops, are price-negotiable.
-LANGUAGE: A lot of signs and street names are in Greek and English, but it will be helpful to know or get an idea of the Greek alphabet, quite straightforward, so you can understand place names in Greek. In restaurants, ask for an English menu. Many people speak at least a few words of English. Using a few basic Greek words like Hello (Yassas, or Yassou just to one person), Please (Paraklou) and Thank you (Efkaristo) will be appreciated when getting about.
+LANGUAGE: A lot of signs and street names are in Greek and English, but it will be helpful to know or get an idea of the Greek alphabet, quite straightforward, so you can understand place names in Greek. Street and place names may have more than one English translation.  In restaurants, ask for an English menu. Many people speak at least a few words of English. Using a few basic Greek words like Hello (Yassas, or Yassou just to one person), Please (Paraklou) and Thank you (Efkaristo) will be appreciated when getting about. “Nai”, often pronounced “ Neh” means yes, …not No! The word for No is oxi.
 WEATHER: It can be ridiculously hot in summer and ridiculously cold in winter. Plan accordingly.
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-The RLD district, a collection of studios, is centred on the junction of Frixou and Nikiforos Ouranou, and up to Empedokleous. Rates vary from 30 to 40 and above. Haggling down by 10 Euros is possible in some. This is slightly away from the centre. The easiest way to get there is by a No.31 bus, taxi or Uber. Contrary to some reports it is NOT close to the railway station.
+The RLD district, a collection of studios, is centred on the junction of Frixou and Nikiforos Ouranou, and up to Empedokleous. Rates vary from 30 to 40 and above. Haggling down by 10 Euros is possible in some. This is slightly away from the centre. The easiest way to get there is by a No.31 bus, taxi or Uber. Contrary to some reports it is NOT close to the railway station. These are brightly lit, obviously sex establishments with names like Golden Lips. Most are enormous inside but generally only one girl working.
-(GoogleMaps tends to show both the old and the new railway station: the RLD is close to the old one, but a considerable walk from the new one.) Most of the studios are listed on https://findgirls.gr
+(GoogleMaps tends to show both the old and the new railway station: the RLD is close to the old one, but a considerable walk from the new one.) Many of the studios are listed on https://findgirls.gr
 If you visit at night, the RLD looks hidden from the main road (called 26th October) which is where the bus drops you. The immediate end of Frixou is in darkness but not dangerous. If you try to walk from the SW area along Kolotti, the road off Monostiriou half a mile to the north, you will go through a short unlit road just after McDonalds. Again, safe enough though it looks dodgy.
 The SWs, starting from Monastiriou, are few and far between and mostly unattractive. They can be found on the northern half of Kolotti and the roads parallel, as well as Giannitson, which intersects Kolotti.
 Getting around: GoogleMaps is ok but doesn’t seem to give public transport routes. The iPhone Maps app is somewhat better, for routes, not for times. To use a bus, just get on and stick a one euro coin in the machine (it’s actually 90cents but the machine doesn’t give change). It’s an honour system, so try not to look like a cheap tourist over 10 cents. There’s one central street starting as Monastiriou, which runs from the station, and changes its name as it curves round into the middle and lower part of the town. Thessaloniki doesn’t have a proper Metro, but one is being built and is scheduled to be operational some time in 2024.
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-* '''Thessaloniki:''' try the Kamara district (historic area). The ‘white lights’ tend to be a bit more expensive than Athens.
+* '''Thessaloniki:''' others have said try the Kamara district (historic area), suggesting ‘white lights’ there, tending to be a bit more expensive than Athens. Any personal updates please let me know on the wiki. Vadaris area has also been mentioned for white lights; again walking through this area I’ve seen no evidence of such.
 * '''Rhodes:''' about three blocks from Athanasiou Gate.
 * '''elsewhere:''' Outside of Athens and Thessalonika, punting opportunities can be sparse or non-existent. The one exception is Crete.